Shining a Light on the Truth Seekers

 

What makes a person a truth seeker? 

That is a really good question to ask yourself. For me, the definition of a truth seeker is someone who will leave no stone unturned to find the facts behind whatever subject matter they are investigating, be it a person or a place. They are also someone who will be unbiased in their quest for the facts.

"The Historian should be fearless and incorruptible; a man of independence, loving frankness and truth; one who, as the poet says, calls a fig a fig and a spade a spade. He should yield to neither hatred nor affection, but should be unsparing and unpitying. He should be neither shy nor deprecating, but an impartial judge, giving each side all it deserves but no more. He should know in his writings no country and no city; he should bow to no authority and acknowledge no king. He should never consider what this or that man will think, but should state the facts as they really are." --- Lucian (170 A.D.)

In the process of trying to uncover the facts, how then can someone fail to be a "truth seeker"? As Lucian pointed out, those who go into a project with a bias, or an agenda - those who plan on twisting the history to fit or follow their own narrative - those are obviously the exact opposite of a truth seeker. They might hide behind their shiny credentials or even have notoriety or connections to the rich and famous that gives them the appearance of credibility, but that means nothing when it comes down to brass tacks. 

What matters is the sincerity of the research. Did you use your due diligence to search every possible lead and work tirelessly to seek out all the facts, or did you lazily make a conclusion based on a weak Google search? Trust me folks, sadly there are people out there who claim to be "historians" who literally get their research from other websites or blogs without actually doing the real research and seeking out the oldest possibly primary sources. This is another example of someone who isn't a real truth seeker.

Look, we all make mistakes from time to time, we are not infallible -- I know I am not perfect, but when we find out that our work has an error are we humble enough to rise to the occassion, fix the error and adjust our opinions based on those new facts that came to light? Your ability to do just that can determine whether or not you truly are sincere in your research as a historian. 

So, now, I am going to share with you some real truth seekers that I have had the privilege to know, collaborate with on historical projects, and also people I am proud to call my friends. These people deserve to be recognized, so we are going to do that today!

Pam Kenyon

Pamela Sweet Kenyon-Cardin, as some of you know, was the last surviving Kenyon who had ties to the Arnold Farmhouse. Of all the people in all the world, she was the one that people should have reached out to for answers about her grandparent's home. Did they? Nope. Instead, the masses followed and soaked up every word spoken by those with overimaginative stories, fabricated tales and downright false history -- the ones who financially benefited from exploiting the house and the people who once were attached to it, or surrounding properties. 

Pam wasn't about that. She was humble and kind, but also a very strong-willed New Englander who didn't take any guff from anyone, and had no problem stating what was on her mind if she felt you were in the wrong. With the same token, if you were honest and good to her, and showed her and her family respect, she would be the best friend you could imagine. 

Pam grew up in Burrillville, and often spent time visiting her grandmother and grandfather, staying overnight  at the farmhouse as a child, a teenager and yes, at times she spent time there even as an adult, until her grandfather sold the property to the Perrons in January of 1972 (yes, 1972! I have copies of the deed).

Pam was a founding member of the Burrillville Historical and Preservation Society, who spent many, many years scouring the old archives to research local history and her own family history on both sides, the Sweets, Remingtons, Arnolds and Kenyons. In her younger years, she and her cousin spent a lot of time learning to become genealogists, and traveling all over Rhode Island and into Massachusetts just to follow a lead on her family history. She believed in the preservation of local history so much that she even donated property to the historical society to sell so they could raise money for their own needs. Besides property, she donated a multitude of her own research, items belonging to her family and other records before she left Rhode Island venturing off out of state. 

Pam and I connected after I had debunked the false and slanderous story surrounding Bathsheba Sherman who was erroneously tied to the history of the property. She was instrumental at inspiring me to continue my path with further research on the history of her ancestral home, and she provided me with a lot of her own personal and family research in order to enlighten the world with the truth about the property. Pam is the ultimate truth seeker -- and it didn't hurt that she was seeking the truth about her own history. Sadly, she passed away on December 23, 2023, but the mark she left on the town of Burrillville will remain forever. 

Kent Spottswood  

Kent grew up in Sudbury, Massachusetts, but ended up in Woonsocket when he pursued journalism for the local newspaper. He eventually became the copy editor and remained there for over 20 years. 

Kent was one of those types of guys full of talents, from writing to music, photography to his interests in history and local folklore. He did it all. He often found himself adventuring through the backwoods of Rhode Island, seeking out old cemeteries and stories long forgotten. 

During his lifetime he spent a great amount of his time researching  every library and archive in the state of Rhode Island searching for anything that would prove or disprove the alleged backstory of Bathsheba Sherman. Determined to find out the truth about her life, his efforts did not disappoint, as he was the very first person to prove that she was not a witch, not a devil worshipper, she didn't kill any babies (or anyone else for that matter) and that she didn't commit suicide at the farmhouse. Heck, he even proved she didn't live at the property either. 

With all the stories swirling around Burrillville -- created by Carolyn Perron, Lorraine Warren and later on continued by Andrea Perron, it was Kent who initially shined the beacon of light over Bathsheba's tattered and torn gravesite, exposing the truth -- that she wasn't the villain in the story, but instead was an innocent victim. Everyone owes a huge debt of gratitude to Kent Spottswood for being the very first truth seeker on this subject, someone who sought me out after he noticed that I was also researching and digging for the facts, and someone who ultimately became not only a fellow collaborator but a friend. Kent passed away on April 18, 2020, and the world lost one of its great truth seekers. 

Shannon Bradley Byers

Shannon is a kindred spirit who has been researching history and the paranormal for over 40 years. We originally connected through our mutual friend, Kent Spottswood, when we both were writing our own individual books debunking false history all over the country, and both of us were covering Bathsheba Sherman's story. Neither of us knew the other, yet we both wrote our findings which happened to be in sync with one another -- debunking the "fakelore," as she puts it... (by the way, I love that saying!!) -- and sharing the truth behind the real history. In all, both Shannon and I were able to get that ball rolling in order to spread the truth far and wide, gaining global momentum well over a decade until finally the tides turned and we started to see others also reporting Bathsheba's innocence. Vindication at last!  To read Shannon's work please check out her website here at: http://www.paranormalgenealogist.com/

Norma Sutcliffe

Norma is a truth seeker in her own right, being one of the former owners of the farmhouse. Did you know that she lived in the house over 30 years without any sort of negative paranormal experience? In fact, her longstanding residency at the property is the longest amount of time for any of the later owners of the house, besides the original family who owned it for over 200 years. Norma purchased the property with her husband, Gerry in the late 1980's and she remained there until reluctantly selling her dream home in 2019. 

During her time living in the house, she loved to hear any sort of history about the home from whomever had stories, one of those persons claiming to be "in the know" was Andrea Perron. Andrea told Norma all sorts of stories about the house and at the time Norma didn't think to question the history, as she believed Andrea probably had done some research on the house. Unfortunately, that was not the case. After a while though, Norma, being of more of a scientific and rational thinker felt that Andrea and Carolyn's tales just continued to spiral, growing larger and larger as the years went on, and so Norma decided to try to find out the truth about the house on her own.

People like to give Norma a hard time because she allowed Ghost Hunters to her house to investigate. If you watch the episode you would see that they really didn't have any remarkable events take place during their investigation, which didn't surprise Norma at all. She only allowed the crew to come out because she thought that if she had finally publicly allowed people to come out to the house she could finally put the whole nonsense to bed once and for all. 

You can love her or hate her -- but the one thing you cannot say about Norma is that she isn't a truth seeker - in fact, she was willing to confront Andrea Perron at the annual paranormal convention with Kent Spottswood in front of the entire audience while Andrea was on stage. Norma stated that Andrea threw a tantrum and ran off stage upset. The audience acted like a crazed mob and Norma and Kent had to leave abruptly. Even in the face of possibly assault from irrational zealots, Norma was willing to go the extra mile to expose the lies and shine a light on the truth. Yes, Norma is a truth seeker.

Elise Giammarco Carlson

Elise is the one who might go to an event and stands in the background, quietly observing her surroundings, getting a feel for the vibe of the crowd. She doesn't insist on the spotlight, she doesn't want to jump in front of the camera -- although she often should. She is an amazing researcher local to the Rhode Island area and one who I am proud to call my friend and colleague. She is constantly at the historical society or a library or an archive, searching, endlessly and tirelessly searching to solve a local mystery -- to uncover a forgotten story or just to satisfy her curiosity. She keeps an open mind to a point, but is often more of the skeptical nature - using rational thought as a compass to see through the muddied waters of the paranormal community. She doesn't get the credit she definitely deserves, so I am fixing that right now. Elise is definitely one of the good ones, a truth seeker if  ever there was one. 

Stevi Étés   

An absolutely tenacious researcher with a heart of gold, Stevi is one of my favorite people who I absolutely adore!! Not afraid to ruffle any feathers, she dives deep, taking on stories of the paranormal -- debunking story after story, most of the time related in one way or another to the Warrens, but she also takes on other stories as well. Stevi's knack for research is by far one of the best I have seen, always uncovering tidbits of history, revealing and exposing false narratives, resurrecting old interviews with the original journalists to cover various tales such as the original Annabelle doll story -- Stevi goes above and beyond what the average researcher will do for a story. She doesn't do it for fortune or fame, solely because she wants the world to know the truth and to expose the liars. For that I say that Stevi is probably the most geniune truth seeker on Youtube and Spotify and if you don't listen or watch her podcast, you should.

Here's the link: https://www.youtube.com/@truthordemonspodcast

Kenneth Hillyard  

Kenneth, a retired archaelogist and author, is someone whom I have become friends within the last year or so, who also turned out to become a great colleague and fellow collaborator.

His interests in journalism took him halfway across the world, writing about music, politics and history. Interestingly, he reached out to me after reading my blog and as it turned out, he was also researching and writing about this very subject. Over time we began to collaborate and share our research with one another, and I personally feel that was instrumental to uncovering missing pieces of the puzzle.

Kenneth's research is impeccable and his ability to read and transcribe these old colonial time deeds is almost like a superpower! Although we both are seeking the real story backed up by documented facts surrounding the history at the farmhouse property, both of us approach the subject in a different way, so I am very much looking forward to seeing how his project turns out.  To be quite honest, there is a lot of the earlier history in the form of deeds going back to the 1700's in the area that is just very complicated -- to put it mildly, and at times can be difficult to decipher. I would never have been able to locate much of those really old deeds had it not been for his help. I am a believer in giving credit where credit is due, and for this I thank Kenneth for his help and for being another truth seeker. 

Kenny Biddle 

Kenny Biddle is a former ghost hunter turned skeptic, who still keeps an open mind as he investigates the extraordinary. From analyzing objects, gadgets used during paranormal investigating, watching alleged videos of the paranormal and even investigating at locations such as the Arnold farmhouse, the Monroe House, the Bellaire House and many other places, Kenny goes into each investigation seeking a rational explanation for everything first, before jumping to any conclusions. When he first wrote his paper about the house for the Skeptical Inquirer in 2019, I was happy that he took on the task to research the claims about the house, as at the time Ghost Adventures had just done a terrible episode on the subject. Kenny always does a great job tearing apart anything related to Zak Bagans. In turn, his article reached a wider audience and helped share the truth even further, which was our ultimate goal. Getting the facts out there. I have always appreciated him coming to my aid when I asked him to take on this subject and for that he is on my list of fellow truth seekers. Thank you Kenny!

To read more of his work please click here: https://skepticalinquirer.org/authors/kenny-biddle/

Christopher Herlihy  

Calling him a young up-and-coming historian is an understatement. When I first communicated with young Christopher, I thought I was reaching out to an adult or maybe even college student on Find-a-grave to ask for permissions to use a few of his photos he contributed to the site. As I searched the different cemeteries throughout Rhode Island and Massachusetts I found one thing, that this person known as the "Conjuring Kid" had taken photos at every grave I was looking for.  Once I finally got in contact with him via Find-a-grave to request to use those photos in my book, I was shocked when I learned that he is 15 years old, and still in school. 

In his spare time he will roam cemetery after cemetery searching for and photographing and cataloguing the graves in the area, with his particular interest in the Arnold and Richardson families. He visits the libraries and archives regularly seeking out the old death and birth ledgers, deed ledgers, and every town record he can get his hands on that will shed light on the Arnold family's life at that house. His sincerity and determination to find the facts is to be commended. He is definitely getting an early start in the field of history and I hope that he carries that with him into the future. If that isn't a truth seeker, then I do not know what is. Keep up the great work!

Conclusion

In ending this piece, I hope that you have enjoyed taking a peek into the backgrounds of these people whom I greatly admire and respect. Each one of these people listed above put the facts first, not their feelings, not agendas, not biases. They work tirelessly to seek out and find the answers to their questions in whatever subjects they are researching. Something that all writers and historians alike should strive to do always.

(Copyright 2026- J'aime Rubio www.jaimerubiowriter.com)  

Treasured Memories

My dear friend Elise Giammarco Carlson shared some of these photos with me from the Burrillvilel Historical & Preservation Society. Although the two older funeral plates are not belonging to the Kenyon or Butterworth family, they belonged to Pam Kenyon-Cardin's family on her mother's side, which was also a Pioneer family from Burrillville. The other is an Odd Fellows piece that is on display at the Historical Society in town, that once belonged to Earl Kenyon.

The bottom photo came from Pam herself, with a funny message to me via email. She had the best sense of humor. She could not stand what was happening to her grandparent's house, or the "circus" as she put it regarding it being allegedly haunted. She had to poke fun at it in her own way with this gem! I sure do miss her.

"I hope you have as warped sense of humor as I do. These three did come from the house. I thought maybe you could use a laugh. Those "evil lawn demons" used to sit out near what was really a spring pond (a little puddle that appeared only in the spring) at my grandfather’s house. I took them back to my house along with two rocks that are all crystals like the inside of a geode."  - Pam (3/4/2023)  :-) 

Update on my new book, "Deconstructing The Conjuring: A Historical Exposé of the Richardson-Arnold House"

 

Hello everyone, I have not been posting as much as I would like to lately, but there is good reason. I have been spending more of my time working on finishing my upcoming book on the true history of the house.

I was on the fence for a long time, as to whether or not I would even publish a book, but I knew that it was imperative to get the facts out there on paper, as not everyone has read this blog. 

With that being said, a lot of what you can read here on my blog will be in the book, but in much more detail, with updated and newly added information I have found along the way during this extensive deep dive, along with photos and citations so you can go back and research this yourself if you want to -- after all, I am big on transparency and I want my readers to see this story for what it is, and what it is not.

Too many lies have been told about this home's history and I plan on disecting each piece and shining a light on the truth as well as the fabrications, so you can come to your own informed and educated conclusions based on facts.

I do want to give you a little teaser though, I want to share with you that I will be debunking all of the stories that have been told erroneously by the Perrons and the Warrens that were claimed to be related to this house. I will also be sharing the stories that actually did take place on the property, that no one else has really touched on.

One of the biggest questions I get a lot is, how many people actually died in the house or on the property?

It is a good question. Based on my research, I have only found the following deaths took place on the property:

1. Sally Eddy Arnold

2. Abigail Arnold (5 years old)

3. Stephen Arnold

4. Adeline Caswell Arnold

5. Jervis Smith (sometimes known as Jarvis)

6. Sumner Walling, Jr.

7. William Butterworth

8. Abigail Frances Arnold Butterworth

9. Fremont Arnold

Could there have been more deaths that we do not know about? Well, we will get to all of those questions and more in my upcoming book. I hope you will follow my progress and check it out once it is published.

Thank you for reading! ~

(Copyright 2025 - J'aime Rubio, jaimerubiowriter.com) 

Expedition X and the House Next Door -- Separating Fact from Fiction

First and foremost I want to apologize to my readers, it has been a minute since I have posted on here. Let me bring you up to speed on what's been going on. Well, the past year has been pretty tough for me with some serious changes in my personal life as well as some serious health scares. After several surgeries and trips to the hospital, I believe that I am starting to see the light at the end of the tunnel. With that being said, I have some good news for everyone. I am currently working on a new book, which will actually be my detailed research (with the help of a couple friends) to share the true history of the Richardson-Arnold House a.k.a Arnold Farmhouse or Old Arnold Estate -- but you may know it as, The Conjuring House. 

I am slowly getting this done, all the while still trying to keep up with my history blogs and social media. I also have positive news coming up soon that is very exciting for me to share -- but I cannot share just yet! It has to do with the Burrillville Historical & Preservation Society. So, when it's time to make the announcement, I promise I will share it with all of you!

Getting back to the subject of this blog post today, I wanted to go over the episode that Josh Gates filmed for his television show, "Expedition X" that aired on September 3rd, of this year. The episode, (Season 10; Episode 3) titled, "The Curse of the Conjuring," really disappointed me in more ways than one. In this blog, I will share with you in detail why I was so disappointed, how the information provided within the program doesn't match the facts, and then I am going to share with you the real history of this particular house.

The Episode

To start, the episode opened up with Josh and his crew, Phil Torres and Heather Amaro sitting in his "office," discussing "The Conjuring," film. Of course the same ol' story is retold about the Perron family's alleged experiences in the home. Josh then talks about how Carolyn Perron was "targeted by a malevolent entity" in the home back in 1971*

, claiming she would "wake up with inexplicable bruises," and that "in one terrifying incident, a hay knife flies off the wall of their barn, slicing her neck and nearly decapitating her."   

Then he goes on to say that by 1973, "the overwhelmed Perrons call in the pioneers of paranormal investigation, Ed & Lorraine Warren for help."

Let me first explain that I have been a big fan of Josh Gates for many years. In fact, my sons and I used to watch Destination Truth together when it first came out and we were hooked right away. We loved to see his travels to different places all over the world, investigating mysteries and legends. It was always a fascinating program. Unfortunately, I am not impressed with his recent television programs or their lack of factual research of locations.

Today, we will delve into some of the stories that are told on this episode regarding the Perron family and the Warren's experiences at the home, but first let's talk about the most recent claims about the "house next door."

In this episode, Phil and Heather interview the residents of the house at 1725 Round Top Road, owner, Sherry Patrie, her boyfriend Patrick Boylan, and her two sons, Hunter and Tyler Fague. 

The premise of this episode is that the residents claim that their house is now having paranormal activity that has "spilled over" from the property next door, and that Josh Gates' team is there to seek answers. The number one disappointment to me was the fact no one on the show did any rudimentary research on the history of that house, and if they had, it wasn't aired in the episode. Instead, they focused on vague experiences from residents, and interviewed Andrea Perron and Tony Spera as their "research." 

When listening to the list of incidents the residents of the home had been allegedly experiencing, those sounded familiar, like recycled stories from Andrea Perron's books or her recorded family interviews over the years.

Examples: the Boylan/Patrie family claims of hearing footsteps in the attic; a kitchen table that they say they can hear moving around from the other room; alleged scratches on their bodies (no photos to show us); the step father claims he has been attacked by a female spirit in the middle of the night (which can easily be explained by sleep paralysis); and says he keeps getting pushed down the stairs, etc.

Remember, Roger Perron had claimed that a female spirit was bothering him, too. He even claimed the female spirit bothered him in the basement as well, just like Patrick's claim. Carolyn claimed a woman taunted her as she lay in bed. These stories are not new, but appear to be recycled. In fact, throughout my research on this story the similarities kept going on and on.

In the episode, Heather Amaro interviews Andrea Perron sitting on a pew in what looks like a church, while Andrea brings up various incidents, including the one Josh briefly mentioned at the introduction of the show, when Carolyn allegedly was attacked by a flying hand scythe. Then Andrea, pulls an antique hand scythe out from a backpack on the floor and overdramatically tells Heather not to be afraid. 

First and foremost, why would Andrea be holding onto an old scythe that supposedly tried to kill her mother? Why would you keep an object like that? She herself said that the object had dark energy attached to it. That just doesn't make sense for someone who claims to be so interested in positive energies and love and light. 

Andrea goes on to retell the story of what allegedly happened to her mother, Carolyn, while she was alone in the barn back in 1971.* 

"This is the object that almost claimed my mother's life.....it was hovering in the barn, spinning, and then crashed down across her neck, knocked her to the ground and then it was this way (point the scythe's blade outwards, shaking it violently)...and it trembled, and trembled, and trembled, and then fell on the floor and went silent." --- Andrea Perron's interview, Expedition X, Season 10; Episode 3.

Okay, so let's address a few things really quick. 

Pages 99 through 101 of the book, "House of Darkness, House of Light," by Andrea Perron says:

"she had no recollection of seeing that hand scythe hanging overhead, dangling precariously from its highest beam more than thirty feet from the ground......a few weeks after moving in, while the children were in school, Carolyn slipped out of their house for a few minutes to admire their beautiful barn......she distinctly heard a strangely disquieting sound above her head, magnified by still, silent air....the rapidly repetitious noise startled her; "whoosh whoosh whoosh" slicing through acrid, stagnant air........This object appeared to be hovering overhead, literally defying the law of gravity. Suddenly it plunged toward her; the woman was in grave danger....it struck her slender form, its blade slicing hard across both her neck and shoulder, the violent force of a blow she expected was stunning nonetheless. There it lay beside her boots, on frozen planks of wood."

Andrea's story in her book never said that Carolyn was knocked to the ground, as she stated in the television interview.  The story in Andrea's book goes on to explain that because Carolyn was wearing multiple layers of clothing, the leather protected her from the alleged incident, and that the scythe was unable to penetrate through the clothes she had on. So, from the book's explanation Carolyn didn't even get hurt, it was her clothing that was allegedly cut. 

So what is all this talk on the television episode about nearly being decapitated?!

For the record, just so people understand, a small hand scythe, just like any other farm tool such as a shovel, saw, or even a pitchfork that was commonly kept in a barn, and would often be found hanging  against the walls for easy access. I highly doubt it was 30 ft off the ground hanging on a beam as that would have been impratical for a small hand scythe, as someone would have to climb up on a ladder to retrieve it, unless there were many antiquated objects hanging up high for decoration. I know my dad had a large scythe in our yard as decoration, growing up out in the country. The one we had was so big, it was the type you imagine the "grim reaper" holding. 

Now, a hay claw, as they are often called, which are part of a pulley system to lift up large amounts of hay are often suspended from a rope/pulley on a barn ceiling. Could something like that have came loose from the ropes in which it were attached to and fell to the ground, nearly hitting Carolyn? That is a more plausible theory, and one that can be easily explained. It would also be more likely hanging from the top beams of a barn. The barn was very old, even in 1970's, and any number of things could have happened while she was wandering around the barn, touching or leaning on things, that could have caused something that was already loose to fall. Do I believe that the scythe Andrea pulled out of the backpack on television is what allegedly hit Carolyn 54 years earlier? No. I do not believe so.  

Remember still, there is no evidence whatsoever that any of this ever actually happened, as there were no witnesses present, and this story, according to Andrea, came from the mouth of her mother, Carolyn Perron whom I have already caught speaking "untruths" (to put it nicely) many times regarding her "research" on Bathsheba Sherman's history. It goes without saying that due to the fact that I have found serious holes in Carolyn's recollections, that her memories were not credible by any means, and thus can never be taken seriously. 

I am not even going to get into the whole seance story in this blog, because there is just too much for me to say about that and the multitudes of descrepancies in that story that has been told over and over for years and years, and seems to continue to get larger and more elaborate with every telling. No. I am leaving that one for a chapter in my upcoming book, that you will not want to miss. 

Going back to the episode, we get to the interview with Tony Spera. (For the record, I am not a fan.) Tony appears to be uninterested in the truth -- because if he was, he would not allow the slander of Bathsheba Sherman to continue to this day. I have written to him and asked him to remove that page about Bathsheba from the NESPR website, but it is still there. The photos on that site are not of Bathsheba as no photos of her exist. I also shared that information with Tony and asked him to remove them, but if you click on the link, you will see has has done no such thing.

In the episode he claims that Lorraine "felt scared in the house" and that Ed called it the "bewitched farmhouse." Interesting that he says that, because Lorraine had absolutely no problem traveling by herself to visit Norma Sutcliffe, the then owner of the house, and spent time visiting with Norma at the home many years ago. 

In fact, Lorraine toured the home and spoke to Norma about how lovely it was, how wonderful Norma was decorating it, and that it was the perfect home for children (as Norma ran a daycare at the home for many, many years). When Norma asked Lorraine why the Perron's allegedly had experiences in the home, and how she and Gerry had not, Lorraine told her that she believed it was the family that was causing their own "problems" back then, due to the dysfunctional nature of the family and not the house itself. She told Norma that the house itself was fine. If Lorraine was so scared of the house, why did she travel to the home by herself, and then proceed to tell Norma that? 

Back to the subject at hand, during the episode Tony also takes the opportunity to show Phil items in the Warren's museum and asks Phil not to touch anything. One of these days I will have to share with everyone the funny story Norma Sutcliffe shared with me about her visit to Ed and Lorraine's house many years ago, and her experience in the "museum," and no, it isn't a paranormal story, but it is funny.

Anyhow, Tony goes over to the glass and wooden case where the Raggedy Anne doll infamously known as Annabelle is locked away, and he gives the spiel about it being so dangerous. The television show begins to narrate how "supposedly" the doll, "sliced someone open in the 1970's, then caused a priest to nearly die in a car crash." 

If you want to know the truth about the Annabelle doll, please watch/listen to Stevi Etes podcast where she literally dug deep all the way back to the beginning of this very sensationalized and fabricated story that has snowballed into paranormal legend and lore. No, Annabelle is not possessed, even Ed Warren said so! Yes, you read that right. 

Please, once you have finished this blog, I encourage you to visit Stevi's podcast channel on Youtube for the facts surrounding Annabelle.

Annabelle (Part 1): https://youtu.be/4WiVWaMJQsk?si=MPrggAgqrCdP-OfQ

Annabelle (Part 2): https://youtu.be/EGchgX_HrWE?si=u5owS5faGpNCmX22

Annabelle (Part 3): https://youtu.be/d_N0E0zzr58?si=5BbWo9-K9NmWewym

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Back to this subject...

Going back to the episode, the gentleman that is interviewed claims that the "old stone foundation" is older than the house. 

Actually, no, it's not. 

The house at 1725 Round Top Way was built in 1941, and there was absolutely nothing on that part of the property before that point, it was just land. No old stone foundation was there predating anything. That is just a bunch of malarkey. 

A funny coincidence though, when Sherry's parents purchased the home in 1971, the bank that loaned them the money to purchase the property was called "Old Stone Savings Bank." 

At one point Phil stands by a wall in the basement claiming "this must be the old foundation." If you are paying attention you can see that is clearly a wall covered in plaster or some sort of stucco finish. Plus, when they decide to go outside, they go around the same wall they were just bringing focus to, and they they turn and go up the stairs from the basement leading outside. If you look closely, the interior walls on the stairway are also covered in the same finish.

Do you see the two houses marked with the red arrow above each one in the photo below? The one on the right is the Richardson-Arnold Farmhouse and the one on the left is the Patrie House. Now, I want you to take a look at the aerial photo from 1939, which is just below that one, and take a look at the same exact spots. You will see there was absolutely nothing on that spot of land prior to the building of that house in 1941, except for trees and dirt. There was no old stone foundation predating the house and there is nothing physically "connecting" the two houses to each other.

2025 Aerial View 

1939 AERIAL VIEW 

Going back to the "haunted" aspect of the house.....

I have a question.

If Sherry Patrie and Patrick Boylan have lived there for decades, as claimed, and the house is so haunted, as they also claim -- then why is it just now that we are hearing about their paranormal experiences they have been having at this house? 

I did a little research and found that Sherry's parents purchased the home in August of 1971, eight years before Sherry was born (October 1979). It is obvious that this was Sherry's childhood home, at least prior to her moving out as an adult and having her own family in Mapleville for a number of years.

What I am trying to say here is that during the televised interview you do not see Sherry mention any childhood memories of the house being haunted at all.  Only stories of recent incidents in the home are mentioned, and even those are vague at best or retold by Patrick, Sherry's partner. Why is that? If she grew up in the house, and the house is haunted, certainly she would have shared some memories she had growing up there; At least one would think so. 

Unfortunately, Sherry's mother, Claire Patrie just recently passed away in June of 2025, so no one is able to ask her about her home and if she herself had ever experienced anything supernatural or paranormal during the 54 years that she lived there.

Again, I just find it strange that the couple waited until one of the older owners of the house had passed on, before sharing the stories about the house being allegedly haunted and making all these claims. You see, the same thing happened with the Perron family, too.  The Perrons waited until September of 1973, just one month after the death of Earl Kenyon, Sr., the gentleman they purchased the house from, before they started their "ghost stories" about the house. 

Are you aware that there was absolutely no talk about the Richardson-Arnold home (Conjuring House) being haunted prior to the fall of 1973? 

Why is that? Could it be because once Mr. Kenyon was gone, there would be no one to counter the Perron's stories with actual facts? (Or so they thought). Again, there are just too many similarities to ignore here.

Yes, this piece of land was once part of the original Arnold farm, but there are no documents that show any structure on that particular spot where 1725 Round Top Road was constructed had been there prior. When the house was built in 1941, the land belonged to Sarah Butterworth Kenyon and her husband, Earl Kenyon, Sr.  Later, deed records show that the plat of land was conveyed by the Kenyons to Melicite Berube Vacher and her daughter Lula Vacher Bishop in June of 1945, meaning that the property was paid off as of June 1945. 

Records indicate that the Vacher family moved into the home sometime after 1942, as I found records of them living in Pascoag prior to that date.  George Vacher and his wife, Melicite lived there with their two daughters, Lula and Dorothy for many years. Why the house was not in George's name at first, I do not know; Perhaps the Kenyon's wanted to make sure that Melicite and Lula would be taken care of in the event something happened to George, so they put the property in their names. It is really impossible to know now. 

The 1950 Census shows the Vacher's living in the house, and being next door neighbors to the Kenyons (Earl and Sarah). The Census indicates that the house on "the Douglas Road" which is what Round Top Road was also called had no acreage, but the Kenyon's property did. Melicite was listed as  a "spooler" for the Stillwater Worsted Mill in Burrillville, while Mr. Vacher was a plumber at the Mill as well. Before that, he had been a machine operator, and later on in his life he became a master mechanic.

Who were the Vacher's?

George Vacher was born on April 13, 1898; His wife, Melicite Berube was born on March 14, 1899. The two wed on April 21, 1917. Both were natives of Rhode Island, but born to parents who were of French-Canadian extraction. 

In the 1920's the two lived in Woonsocket and both worked at the Stillwater Worsted Mill.  By the 1930's they were still in Woonsocket, at another address, though. By 1935, they were living on Steere Street in Burrillville and by the early 1940s they moved to the house at 1725 Round Top Road. 

Later on, the Vacher's moved elsewhere and the house changed hands to the next owners, Norbert and Julia DeSourdy.

Who were the DeSourdy's?

Norbert N. DeSourdy was born on June 1, 1908 and his wife, Julia Warchol, was born on February 2, 1907. The two married young, and lived in Pascoag. Both also worked at the Stillwater Worsted Mill, just like George and Melicite Vacher. Did they happen to know one another? It seems more than likely.

The DeSourdy's had three sons, but by the time they purchased the house on Round Top Road their boys were already grown. The couple stayed there until 1971, when they sold the house to Maurice and Claire Patrie, on August 31, 1971. 

Stillwater Worsted Mill, R.I.

Who were the Patrie's?

Maurice Patrie was born on June 25, 1945; His wife, Claire Aucoin was born on February 8, 1945. As stated above, the two purchased the house in 1971 and lived there the rest of their lives. According to their obituaries, Maurice was a retired Marine and Vietnam Veteran. He was also a member of the Blackstone Valley Beagle Club and the Woonsocket Sportsmen Club. He worked for many years at Avery-Dennison Co., as a colorist and foreman. Claire worked as a monitor for the Dattco Bus Company and later as a Coordinator for "Meals on Wheels." 

One thing that I found that I think is quite lovely is that two of the three couples and former owners of this little home are buried at the St. Patrick's Cemetery in Burrillville. 

George Vacher passed away on January 23, 1980 

Melicite Vacher passed away on April 8, 1967

both are buried at the Oak Hill Cemetery in Woonsocket, Rhode Island

Norbert DeSourdy passed away in October of 1986

Julia DeSourdy passed away in August of 1986

both are buried in Plot B, at Saint Patricks Cemetery in Burrillville, Rhode Island

Maurice Patrie passed away on May 21, 2003

Claire Patrie passed away on June 14, 2025

both are buried at Saint Patricks Cemetery in Burrillville, Rhode Island

In ending this piece, I felt that it was necessary to shine a light on the history of that specific piece of land. No, nothing dark and evil is tied to this house, just like nothing dark and evil was ever tied to the Richardson-Arnold house either. That was all made up. The fact that Josh Gates and his investigators chose to sink this low to continue to perpetuate this story speaks volumes for how deep people are willing to lower their standards for the sake of ratings.

It is a sad thing that greedy people wanting to make names for themselves by exploiting the dead and fabricating stories, in turn continue to perpetuate said tales over and over which in turn misleads the masses even more so. 

When will people wake up to see that all of this started in the early 1970's? 

Yet, it seems that no one wants to accept that. There was no history of  the farmhouse being haunted prior to that time, and yet, the world just continues to drink the paranormal "kool-aid" as if it were. Look, now the tall tales have "spilled over" to the property next door. When will it end?!

I hope that by reading this blog today, you will see the facts for what they are and use common sense to come to your own rational conclusions on your own. I also hope that people will eventually look at the original culprits who have been perpetuating this nonsense for decades, misleading their audience for so many years, and finally see them for who they truly are one day, deceivers. 

(Copyright 2025- J'aime Rubio) 

*For the record, the Perron's actually did NOT buy the house in 1971 - in fact, the deed records show the purchase took place in January of 1972. 

My message to Jason Hawes regarding the upcoming "Auction" of the Richardson-Arnold House

It has come to my attention that Jason Hawes, famous for his show "Ghost Hunters," has decided to start a GoFundMe to raise enough money to purchase the Richardson-Arnold House on the upcoming auction on October 31, 2025.  I sent Mr. Hawes a message on social media this morning with a sincere request that I am hoping he might consider, for the sake of historical preservation.  

Good Morning, 10/5/2025

I wanted to reach out to you because I have heard of your recent endeavor to raise funds to save the Richardson-Arnold house from the grasps of other potential owners who may further exploit and damage the history of the home. I am reaching out to you today to toss a suggestion into the ring, although I am sure you already have someone or some group in mind to manage the property if you are able to procure enough funds to purchase the home at auction on the 31st.

My request to you is to strongly consider donating the home to the Burrillville Historical and Preservation Society for proper care and management of the home. Betty Mencucci and her husband Carlo are the best suited to take on this task and those at the historical society are the ones who want to make sure the true history of the home is preserved with love and respect. It was Betty and Carlo who helped me with my fundraiser to replace Bathsheba Sherman's headstone and it is they who continue to repair and replace headstones throughout Burrillville's historic cemeteries, as well as preserving the factual history of those who have been wronged in death. I am requesting this with sincerity and hope that you would strongly consider making sure the historical society can keep this home safe and preserved for another century or more.

Pam Kenyon Cardin, my dear friend, and whose father grew up in the home, whose grandmother was born and raised in the home, and her great grandmother who lived there along with her father before that and so on and so forth, they didn't want this home to be a paranormal circus side show as it had become under the care of Jacqueline Nunez. I know that just before Pam died she was very upset with how things were going and how her family history was being told erroneously. That is why I created my blog "Deconstructing the Conjuring" and spent hundreds of hours researching the history of the home, the families who lived there and debunking false stories that have sprang up since the early 1970s. I do not want to see Pam's ancestral home continue to be treated like a amusement park -- it was a family home, where people lived and loved, and yes, some passed, but nothing nefarious ever took place on that property.

The truth of the home should be preserved and taught. Please consider my request if you are able to acquire the home. Please think of the original owners, the Richardsons, Arnolds, Butterworths and the Kenyons -- whom I know would not want their home to be treated the way it has been the last 6 years.

Thank you for your time,

J'aime Rubio, Author and Historian

Remembering Pamela Sweet Kenyon Cardin - Descendant of the Richardson-Arnold families

Pamela Sweet Kenyon
Class of '69

I have been meaning to write a post about my friend Pam for some time now. Honestly, it's been very difficult for me to find the words to share with the world just what a wonderful and true friend she was to me. I hope that by reading this post about my dear friend, that you will get to see just what a kind and caring person she was, and how much her family history meant to her.

First off, I didn't meet Pam until after I had done my research into the Conjuring House, debunking the false lore surrounding Bathsheba Sherman. In fact, I recall when I first met Norma Sutcliffe over 10 years ago, after she had provided me with information regarding the house, a few of the notes from Norma was email correspondence between herself and Pam.

Of course at that time I didn't want to just write her out of the blue and ask her questions, when I was literally a stranger. So, one day when I happened to be commenting on a Facebook post about the false history surrounding the Conjuring House, I noticed Pam had commented, too. I immediately took the opportunity to introduce myself and share with her my interest in sharing the truth about the house, which happened to be her ancestral home. We immediately hit it off, and became good friends shortly thereafter.

It was amazing to keep in touch with her for the few years that I knew her, getting to hear first hand about her memories at her grandparent's home, her research of her family genealogy and other stories surrounding the property and Burrillville itself, not to mention her family's opinion of the Perron family. With Pam's blessing, I started this blog "Deconstructing The Conjuring," to share the history to the best of my ability surrounding the genealogy of the families that lived on the farm, the history of the house itself, the stories of different owners who have lived there over the years, and everything else associated with the property, such as the false story behind Bathsheba Sherman.  My hope with this blog, which is a work-in-progress, was to share factual research surrounding this subject with the help of Pam, of course.

Over the time that we communicated, it was obvious she suffered from multiple health problems as she shared that she had developed Type 1 Diabetes in her early 50s, survived a diabetic coma, and was also breast cancer survivor, too. It was clear that Pam was a survivor, not a quitter; So, never in my wildest dreams did I imagine she would be taken from this earth so quickly. I have been very broken up about the loss of my friend for some time now, and that is one reason why I hadn't posted about her until today. 

Pamela Sweet Kenyon was born on July 8, 1951 in Harrisville, Rhode Island, to parents Earl Kenyon, Jr., and Marjorie Sweet Kenyon. Her grandparents, Sarah Butterworth and Earl Kenyon, Sr., owned and lived in the house on Round Top Road, where Pam's father also grew up. As a child Pam used to stay over at her grandparent's home and she loved visiting the farmhouse, and learning about her family history from her grandmother. 

Interestingly, Pam's ancestry on both sides were pioneer families local to the area. Not only did she descend from the Butterworth/Arnold/Richardson families who owned the farm the longest, but her mother's side of the family, the Sweet's, were also very well known throughout Burrillville/Harrisville area historically. Pamela attended school in town and was a graduate of Burrilville High School, class of '69. 

Pam is sitting on the 2nd row, 2nd seat (middle of photo) 

She also attended college and became an English teacher, and later on an Special Education teacher and she also along with her cousin, Joyce Remington McKenna studied to be a certified genealogist. She married Rick Cardin, and had daughter, Rhiannon (b. 1982) and son, Brian (b. 1984).  Pam loved her children so very much, and she often told me how difficult life was for her after losing her son, who passed away suddenly after an illness.

Besides the love she had for her family, Pam absolutely loved animals. If you knew her on social media, you would see she would often post about dogs and cats and her love for them, especially horses! She was big on horse riding when she was younger, and even rode in horse shows. She shared a photo of herself when she was child stating: 

"My two steadfast best buddies for most of my childhood -- Dusty, the pony with the iron mouth  and Rover, my father's collie who was my protector throughout most of my childhood. One vet thought Dusty was about 40 when he died. He was blind in one eye but that didn't stop him at all."--

It was clear by Pam's interest, she had a kind soul, but she also had an undying passion for history of her hometown.  As one of the founding members of the Burrillville Historical Society, Pam named their newsletter "The Historian," when she was the editor between 1982-1998. She also acted as secretary to the historical society for a time as well. 

Per Betty at the Historical Society, and their March 2024, "The Historian" newsletter, "Pam was always generous; she donated part of the former Sweet's Hill property to the Society to sell in order to raise (much-needed) funds. It was sold for about $9,000 to DEM and is now part of Black Hut Management Area. Early in 2008, Pam sold her house on Sweet's Hill and moved to Florida. Before she left, she let the Society scan her entire collection of Sweet's Hill photos and donated artifacts from the farm and several large framed photos. She also donated a whole room full of books which started out tradition of having book sales."--

In one of our email exchanges to one another Pam mentioned to me that although she was living in the south, the south was just not for her. She missed her home, and the only place she really considered home was Rhode Island. She often commented on her memories of living up there and wished she was back there, back to that time period, back to that place. It was obvious that the best memories of her life were in Burrillville, and her heart ached because of it. 

I never found out what exactly happened, as I knew she had taken a bad fall in November of 2023, and after that she stopped posting on social media and I never heard from her, and she never responded to any of my emails or letters. Eventually, I got the news no one ever wants to hear, that she had passed away in December of 2023.  

I wanted to honor her on this blog, since she was the inspiration for me to create it in the first place. I had already debunked the nonsense surrounding Bathsheba Sherman's false history that the Warrens and Perron family have perpetuated in the film, "The Conjuring," and the books "House of Darkness, House of Light," but with Pam, we were going to delve even deeper into the history of the home, the history of the families who lived there and expose the truth for the world to see -- that this house is just an old farm house that several families considered "Home Sweet Home," just the way Pam saw it.

Rest In Peace My Friend. --

Courtesy: Burrillville Historical Society

(Copyright 2025- J'aime Rubio www.jaimerubiowriter.com) 

Animosity Continues to Brew Between Former Owners of the Conjuring House

 

So, a little over a month ago, I was watching my friend the "Side Eye Guy's" video on "The Boys at the Conjuring House." I just so happened to make a comment on the video when lo and behold, former Conjuring House owner, Corey Heinzen jumps on to argue with me. It seems that every time I am mentioned on Youtube regarding the history of the Richardson-Arnold house (aka the Conjuring House) or even when I just comment on a video relating to the subject, Corey shows up out of nowhere with something to say. Because I have been dealing with some health issues this year, I haven't been online as much as I have been in the past, especially within the last month, so I didn't really have a chance to reply in detail. So, it’s a little late today, but better late than never.

Today, I will be addressing his original comments as well as touching on the animosity that continues to brew between former owner Norma Sutcliffe and Corey Heinzen, which is all based on alleged dishonesty and unethical behavior on the part of Heinzen at the time of purchasing the property from Sutcliffe.

Although a lot of people out there think the Heinzen's are nice people, my personal experiences with them from the very beginning have been anything but nice. In fact, after finding out about them purchasing the property back in 2019, I reached out to them via snail mail with a letter sincerely asking them to preserve the factual history of the home and not to jump on the bandwagon with all of the paranormal groups perpetuating the false lore that has been spread for many years. I also provided them with a copy of some of my thorough research debunking Bathsheba Sherman's false attachment to the home's history, as well as debunking several false claims about deaths at the home claimed in Andrea Perron's books, so they couldn't say they weren't aware of the facts.  I was immediately met with a threatening message from their friend, Bill Brock on Facebook on July 27, 2019, which showed that someone had taken a sharpie and wrote the expletive “Fuck Off!” on my letter that I had sent to the Heinzen's.

I actually spoke to someone who was there at the house when this event took place and this person told me that he saw when Bill Brock took my letter and sent this and that Corey Heinzen was okay with it, despite Corey's email to me on August 1, 2019  claiming he had no idea that Bill had done that. 

But going back to the video on SEG's channel last month, this blog will be to set some information straight so that the public will actually have a chance to know Norma's side of the story, not just a one-sided story by the Heinzen's.

In Corey’s comment to me he states: “So why was Norma on Ghost Hunters, Season 2, Episode 2? Or better yet, why does she talk about it with Andrea Perron on countless videos?”  Then he goes on to ask: “Strange, it didn’t stop her from having other teams in to investigate? Or having her “tea time with the spirits”? Or talking to her former staff at the daycare about the ghosts? Would you like for me to continue? I honestly don’t think you were given the complete story by her.”

Originally my first response to Corey on the Youtube thread was this: 

"First and foremost G.H. Season 2 was filmed between 2005 and 2006. When Norma bought the house she was told a previous family claimed that the house was haunted. She found it interesting even though she was more skeptical than a believer. The Perron's, upon meeting Norma made vague claims about the house in the beginning. It wasn't until years later that Andrea started showing up at the house wanting to share stories with Norma. (Some of which were recorded). At that point Norma didn't know a lot about the history of the house and so Andrea made claims and Norma politely listened. One of Norma's friends talked her into doing the G.H. episode hoping to debunk the rumors. She regretted it later. After Norma started researching the facts about the house she saw that all the so-called " history" Andrea had tried to spread wasn't based on documented facts and Norma even tried to confront Andrea at a local Paracon. That was when Andrea got upset, screamed at her and ran off stage because someone had called her out on her over embellishments. So there you go....."--- --- 

Going back to all the questions coming from Corey on the Youtube video's comment thread, I decided to go straight to the source and reach out to Norma myself for her answers to provide to the public. But first, my question to Corey is how do you live with yourself knowing you tricked an elderly lady, a widow nonetheless, into selling her property to you under the guise you were going to use the property for people and/or children with disabilities and animal therapy? When Norma was told that the house would be in no way used for anything paranormal, and yet the ink hadn’t even dried on the property sales documents, and you were already planning paranormal business on the property.

NORMA’S ANSWERS: 

"Hi. To answer the questions, the only reason I did the Ghost Hunters show was out of sheer curiosity to see what they would claim, long before the movie or the return of Andrea to the farm.  Also, the only other group I had allowed in the home to investigate was Keith Johnson because they called me.  Seeing that he was the original investigator, both groups came because I was very interested in what they would claim, none of which used critical thinking, as Kent Spottswood and I did. 

Why would I speak about facts if I wanted to believe or to make claims about having ghosts? They just used Perron's claims, and Johnson made the same claims in his book without an investigation into the facts.  I never said I believed in the paranormal. Even during the filming of the show.  At the end I said it was “interesting” and would have this to show in the future.  If I wanted that attention I would have done my own ghost tours.  People will believe what they want….. no matter what evidence is given.  The hard evidence against Perron’s claims is at the library and town hall and all the lies about who died at the farm.   I confronted her (Andrea Perron) at the paranormal event in Harrisville in front of her followers and I was booed and told to leave."--

Regarding Operating a Daycare and “Tea Parties”:

"I operated the first group home day care in the state.  I was part of the development of home day care rules and began the home day care association in Rhode Island.  I never told the staff of my daycare that I believed in ghosts. I told them about the Perron claims.  We joked at times about ghosts but only jokingly.  Also, I never spoke of the claims at my tea parties.  I was given a lot of publicity for my “teas.”  In national magazines, local magazines, the news and on local radio and I never mentioned any ghost claims.   Also, my daycare was in Rhode Island Monthly and on the TV news as a great example of childcare in Rhode Island. 

I spoke of visits from the Perron family and Warren’s visit.  May I remind everyone that the Warrens said the Perron family were the most dysfunctional family they had ever met.  The Warren’s told the children their mother was possessed and never to play with Ouija board.  Never had any issues. I was well respected. Licensed in 1975.  Retired. 2012, at age 62. My daycare was unusual because I had sheep, horses, a dog and cats.  Long walks in woods on trails, swimming in the brook, sledding on the hill, etc.   I also did cooking workshops and was featured in many magazines for that.   I was well known in town, and I never received a complaint by any parent."---

Regarding the alleged drawings of the "Crooked-Neck Lady" that was revealed after the Heinzen's purchased the home: 

"There were never drawings in the house like that.  No children ever went to the basement. I saw a photo of  the drawing; they claimed it looked like it was inside door of white cabinet in cellar." --  According to Norma, this drawing was placed after the home was sold, and did not exist prior to her selling the house.     

Regarding the sale of the house and the many items Norma left in the house (antiques):

"Corey lied about his intentions and the neighbors and town were infuriated about it.  They knew me and my husband, how we fully restored the house and farm buildings.  Another lie claimed by Cory that he had to restore the house.

Corey and Roxanne claimed their intention was to open a farm for special needs children with animals. Roxanne was to raise funds having afternoon tea.  Right after closing, Corey forced Roxanne out.  I confronted Corey of their intentions of purchasing the house if it were due to the movie, he just said nothing but moved his head "No."  

Well, Corey lied to me about his intentions. I confronted him about exploiting the farm, he never admitted to his plan.  If he had, I would not have sold it to him.

Roxanne was the main person I spoke to throughout the days before closing.  She was the partner who told me the intentions they had planned.  She did the walk through.  I only saw Corey twice, at the initial meeting and one more time without Jennifer.   We never discussed why I was leaving.  Only asked Roxanne what she would like if I left items.  She was the one who showed the most interest in the books the other items.  During the walkthrough I had to schedule another clean out but Roxanne said don’t bother.  She would do it.  So, I told her what items I was going to leave.  

I had a dealer come who I had hoped would take all antiques I left but did not want large items.  So, I told Roxanne that I would leave big pieces since they belonged in the house. And she had shown great interest in books and large tables; I never discussed anything with Corey.  Except I said to him directly that I assume you do not have plans to exploit this home because of movie. He said nothing.  I went on to say because not only would I be angry, but the neighbors would retaliate.     

Never talked to either Jennifer or Corey about items in the house. That is why I signed a document describing items I left for Roxanne.   She was at the closing sitting right next to Cory.  Next day Corey told her she was out.   She had a key I gave her.  She went back to the house and took whatever she could handle and got a lawyer.   She has emails I believe discussing with Corey the terms of plan once the purchase went through.

This all began with Cory Heinzen’s lies.  Had I known, I would never have sold it to them.  Who would buy the farm now?   I had wished someone would have loved it for its own beauty and peacefulness."---     

What Norma has to say to those continuing to spread false information about the history of the home:

“You are all destroying truth and have no real evidence. So, if you claim the house is so obviously haunted, then get the real scientists and skeptics in to do the research.   But you don’t dare!"--   

In ending, as you can see from Norma's side of things, she has reasonable explanations for her side of the story. There are always two sides to a story, and Norma really hasn't been at the forefront lately stating her side of the story to the public, so unfortunately it's the attention whores who want to remain relevant in the paranormal field that keep spouting out their nonsense without actually stating the truth. Please use critical thinking and common sense to sift between the bullshit and the truth, and come to your own educated and informed opinion.

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(copyright 2025 -- J'aime Rubio -- www.jaimerubiowriter.com)